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Is the law ever fair....
Published on August 11, 2004 By Sally jacobs In Current Events
A rapist who is serving life imprisonment has won over seven million on the lottery. Iorworth Hoare, who was prisoned in 1989 for life for the attempted rape of a 60 year old woman in the park. This was not the first rape he attempted. He was on day release when he took part in the lottery.

Should we even have a problem with this? The guy served his time and he could be rehabilitated for all we know. You could argue this isn't fair. Someone who committed crimes, lowest of the low in my opinion should be able to take part in such thing, and actually win. There are far more deserving people out there. Yes of course there are. We could say that about anything. Having said that it does leave a sour taste in your mouth, that someone like that can have such good things happen to them.

I guess it depends on where you stand on the justice system. Do we forgive and forget because someone has spent their time in prison. Is that enough punishment, and they should come out and then have a clean slate? Some people do make one off mistakes. Or do we continue to punish them, until we see fit that they can accepted as equal members of society again? the law pretty much protects criminals. I'm unlikely to find out someone has served time in prison for raping someone. Do I have the right to know though? Should prisioners be allowed completely clean slates. Who should decide when the time is right to forgive, the law or society? Is it fair this man just won seven million? Ahhh questions......



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on Aug 11, 2004
I kinda just think life just isn't fair. How come good law abiding citizens like us never win the lottery just by stepping out of our houses?
on Aug 11, 2004
Luck never is subject to ethics or morality or righteouness. You may feel bad. But life is like that, what can we do when so many corrupt peoples get so rich,successful and achieving in life while many good people have to struggle in their own sisyphean odysseys. Life is not fair, but thats a harsh fact of life, whether you like it or not .
on Aug 11, 2004
$7 million should just about cover room and board for life at one of the state's lovely criminal institutions...too bad the government can't force him to fork it over! Time to revise the law..."From this day forth, criminals are illegible for the lotto."

Or maybe the 60 year old he attempted to rape should take him to civil court...$7 million in restitution doesn't sound so bad.
on Aug 11, 2004
I kinda just think life just isn't fair.


You're right, life isn't fair. I do believe in karma though, and i'm sure this guy will eventually get what's coming to him!

what can we do when so many corrupt peoples get so rich,successful and achieving in life while many good people have to struggle in their own sisyphean odysseys


I agree, it's just the way life works out. It's just a shame it has to be like that. Money won't buy him happiness though.

$7 million should just about cover room and board for life at one of the state's lovely criminal institutions...too bad the government can't force him to fork it over!


Hehe shades I love this idea! If only hey, and it wasn't even in dollars, it was £7 million! It's so unfair!

Or maybe the 60 year old he attempted to rape should take him to civil court...$7 million in restitution doesn't sound so bad.


There's an idea, I do think something should be done. Apparently he has had to be moved to a secure unit, because he was showing off to much in front of other prisioners!

Thanks for the comments guys xxx
on Aug 11, 2004
Isn't he already serving time? Unless it's illegal for convicts to win the lottery, he deserves to keep that money.

I guess it depends on where you stand on the justice system. Do we forgive and forget because someone has spent their time in prison. Is that enough punishment, and they should come out and then have a clean slate? Some people do make one off mistakes. Or do we continue to punish them, until we see fit that they can accepted as equal members of society again? the law pretty much protects criminals. I'm unlikely to find out someone has served time in prison for raping someone. Do I have the right to know though? Should prisioners be allowed completely clean slates. Who should decide when the time is right to forgive, the law or society? Is it fair this man just won seven million? Ahhh questions......


I think if criminals will be forced to be outcasts for their entire lives because of some mistakes they made in the past, then I think that's more inhumane then simply killing them quickly and being done with it.
on Aug 11, 2004
then I think that's more inhumane then simply killing them quickly and being done with it.

That's not a bad idea actually. Death to all rapists.
on Aug 11, 2004
Isn't he already serving time? Unless it's illegal for convicts to win the lottery, he deserves to keep that money.


It is legal for him to play the lottery. Thanks for you opinion.

I think if criminals will be forced to be outcasts for their entire lives because of some mistakes they made in the past, then I think that's more inhumane then simply killing them quickly and being done with it.


Maybe that's the price you pay when you choose to have sex with someone against their will

That's not a bad idea actually. Death to all rapists.


Rape is such an awful crime, my thoughts are with the victim, who has to live with that the rest of their lives. The rapist can move on eventually.

on Aug 11, 2004

I think if criminals will be forced to be outcasts for their entire lives because of some mistakes they made in the past, then I think that's more inhumane then simply killing them quickly and being done with it.


I'm for killing them then.  Cheaper than keeping them alive and locked up for all that time.


Unless it's illegal for convicts to win the lottery, he deserves to keep that money.


What about his victim?  What does she deserve?  She sure as hell didn't deserve to have him rape her.  He doesn't deserve diddly squat.  He gave away his 'deserving' anything when he violently attacked that woman - and tried to attack another woman prior to that.


Or maybe the 60 year old he attempted to rape should take him to civil court...$7 million in restitution doesn't sound so bad.


Heck yes!! Now he's got some dough, she should try and get some compensation.


 

on Aug 11, 2004
Maybe that's the price you pay when you choose to have sex with someone against their will.


I thought the price to pay was the time in prison.
on Aug 11, 2004
When they typically get out in a couple of years to do it again? If they go to jail at all? That's not fair payment. Castration would be a good start. And besides....there's not a "price" to be payed. It's about invading someone in the most painful and personal way available to get off on a power trip. There's no way to pay for that. Only to end it, one person at a time.
on Aug 11, 2004
I'm for killing them then. Cheaper than keeping them alive and locked up for all that time.


In some cases killing them is to kind, they should be made to live with what they did, like their victims do.

What about his victim? What does she deserve? She sure as hell didn't deserve to have him rape her. He doesn't deserve diddly squat. He gave away his 'deserving' anything when he violently attacked that woman - and tried to attack another woman prior to that.


Hehe, fiesty Dharma, I'm liking it! Plus I totally agree!

I thought the price to pay was the time in prison.


It is, but should he be allowed to simply forget about the act he did? In my opinion prison is just the first step. Maybe if the victim only suffered the amount of time he served in prision, it would be fair. I don't think there si anything fair when it comes to raping someone though.

Thanks for the comments guys
on Aug 11, 2004
When they typically get out in a couple of years to do it again? If they go to jail at all? That's not fair payment. Castration would be a good start.


Sorry, we was typing at the same time! I can't forgive the crime of rape, and I don't even want to try to, in my opinion it is unforgivable.

Thanks for the comment!
on Aug 11, 2004
It is, but should he be allowed to simply forget about the act he did? In my opinion prison is just the first step. Maybe if the victim only suffered the amount of time he served in prision, it would be fair. I don't think there si anything fair when it comes to raping someone though.


The only way to truly make it fair would be to have the rapist be raped, and the murderer killed, and the whole eye for an eye thing. Otherwise, it'll never be fair, so you might as well kill him.
on Aug 11, 2004
His victim needs to sue him for it!
on Aug 11, 2004
The only way to truly make it fair would be to have the rapist be raped, and the murderer killed, and the whole eye for an eye thing.


This is true. It will never be fair as life isn't. So why should he be forgiven for the crime just because hes left prision? In a perfect world maybe he would be, but in a perfect world he wouldn't of done it in the first place.
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