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Is the law ever fair....
Published on August 11, 2004 By Sally jacobs In Current Events
A rapist who is serving life imprisonment has won over seven million on the lottery. Iorworth Hoare, who was prisoned in 1989 for life for the attempted rape of a 60 year old woman in the park. This was not the first rape he attempted. He was on day release when he took part in the lottery.

Should we even have a problem with this? The guy served his time and he could be rehabilitated for all we know. You could argue this isn't fair. Someone who committed crimes, lowest of the low in my opinion should be able to take part in such thing, and actually win. There are far more deserving people out there. Yes of course there are. We could say that about anything. Having said that it does leave a sour taste in your mouth, that someone like that can have such good things happen to them.

I guess it depends on where you stand on the justice system. Do we forgive and forget because someone has spent their time in prison. Is that enough punishment, and they should come out and then have a clean slate? Some people do make one off mistakes. Or do we continue to punish them, until we see fit that they can accepted as equal members of society again? the law pretty much protects criminals. I'm unlikely to find out someone has served time in prison for raping someone. Do I have the right to know though? Should prisioners be allowed completely clean slates. Who should decide when the time is right to forgive, the law or society? Is it fair this man just won seven million? Ahhh questions......



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on Aug 11, 2004
His victim needs to sue him for it!


Agreed
on Aug 11, 2004
This is true. It will never be fair as life isn't. So why should he be forgiven for the crime just because hes left prision? In a perfect world maybe he would be, but in a perfect world he wouldn't of done it in the first place.


Then what we need much more capital punishment because some people will never change.
on Aug 11, 2004
Then what we need much more capital punishment because some people will never change.


Do you not think they should be made to suffer the life they have to lead after leaving prison, when society doesn't accept them?
on Aug 11, 2004

The only way to truly make it fair would be to have the rapist be raped, and the murderer killed, and the whole eye for an eye thing. Otherwise, it'll never be fair, so you might as well kill him.


Prison is supposed to be punishment.  Prison isn't about playing the fucking lottery. Prison is about being locked up, having the basic creature comforts the rest of the population takes for granted taken away from you because you can't behave yourself.  Playing the lottery is a luxury, period, and he shouldn't be allowed to keep the cash.

on Aug 11, 2004
Do you not think they should be made to suffer the life they have to lead after leaving prison, when society doesn't accept them?


I do think they should be made to suffer, but that's because I'm a very vindictive person, and I hear that an undesirable trait. Besides, placing them back onto the streets when they are as dangerous as ever helps nobody. If anything, it'd increase the chances of somebody else being raped.
on Aug 11, 2004

Do you not think they should be made to suffer the life they have to lead after leaving prison, when society doesn't accept them?


You made you bed, now lie in it. 

on Aug 11, 2004
Prison is about being locked up, having the basic creature comforts the rest of the population takes for granted taken away from you because you can't behave yourself. Playing the lottery is a luxury, period, and he shouldn't be allowed to keep the cash.


This is a good point, the lottery is a luxury he shouldn't be allowed in the first place. I seriously think the victim should take him to court. No amount of moeny will make them feel better, but at least he won't have it.

Besides, placing them back onto the streets when they are as dangerous as ever helps nobody. If anything, it'd increase the chances of somebody else being raped.


You said before he should have the money. So he should have the money, and the ability to commit the crime again? We don't know id prison weill rehabilitate or not. There should be provisions, so he couldn't play the lottery in the first place.
on Aug 11, 2004
You said before he should have the money. So he should have the money, and the ability to commit the crime again? We don't know id prison weill rehabilitate or not. There should be provisions, so he couldn't play the lottery in the first place.


The only way he'd have the ability to commit the crime again is if he was freed or allowed to live (because people can even be raped in prison, and not always prisoners). He should have the money though because it was legal for him to do what he did. If it's not legal, then no he shouldn't have money. Even if they make it illegal now, he should still be able to keep it because it wasn't illegal at the time he won it.
on Aug 11, 2004
The only way he'd have the ability to commit the crime again is if he was freed or allowed to live


If only it was as easy as black and white. If he was guilty of the crime, and it was 100% that he was just evil. I'd be quite happy for capital punishment. Unfortunately not everyone is always guilty, some people are rehabilitated. Shouel be willing to take that chance for the sake of a life. That is a question I can't answer.

He should have the money though because it was legal for him to do what he did.


He should have it, yes, but is it right for him to have it?
on Aug 11, 2004
If only it was as easy as black and white. If he was guilty of the crime, and it was 100% that he was just evil. I'd be quite happy for capital punishment. Unfortunately not everyone is always guilty, some people are rehabilitated. Shouel be willing to take that chance for the sake of a life. That is a question I can't answer.


Well, if some of these people might not be evil, then isn't it cruel to make them suffer even after they've served their time and were possibly rehabilitated? People who aren't guilty will probably suffer dearly in prison. They won't have it easy either way.

He should have it, yes, but is it right for him to have it?


No. He shouldn't have had the chance to play it in the first place.
on Aug 11, 2004
isn't it cruel to make them suffer even after they've served their time and were possibly rehabilitated?


Rehabilitated or not, I don't think its cruel to make them suffer for rape a little longer.

No. He shouldn't have had the chance to play it in the first place.


Agreed!
on Aug 11, 2004
Rehabilitated or not, I don't think its cruel to make them suffer for rape a little longer.


Won't it be the rest of their lives though and not just a little longer? How long does the stigma of being a sex offender last for the average convict? How long are they kept on that list of sex offenders?
on Aug 11, 2004
Won't it be the rest of their lives though and not just a little longer? How long does the stigma of being a sex offender last for the average convict? How long are they kept on that list of sex offenders?


How many people actually find out they are sex offenders though? There is no right answer with this one. I shall look up how long they are kept on the list for. It's 1am in the morning here though, and I'm going for some much needed beauty sleep. Thankyou for your comments so far though. Your opinions are very appreciated!
on Aug 11, 2004

How long does the stigma of being a sex offender last for the average convict? How long are they kept on that list of sex offenders?


They're on it permanently.  Until they die.  As it should be......

on Aug 11, 2004

How many people actually find out they are sex offenders though?


In this country, if they're registered sex offenders then it's a matter of public record. If people want to take the time to go look at the registry either online or at their local Sheriff's Department, they can do so.  In my experience, most people don't bother. 

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