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Push, push, push
Published on June 17, 2004 By Sally jacobs In Entertainment
I've bonded with my television again, we are attending couselling and should make a full recovery. There's two television programmes recently that have got my attention. One is about the beauty pageant girl who was murdered and one is about pushy parents. The one about Jon-Benet Ramsey was on last night, I was tempted to watch it, but having previously watched a programme about her and knowing how upset that got me, I decided against watching it. Last time the programme completely infuriated me. These parents pushing their children, grrr! This little girl was six years old when she was killed, she'd be fourteen now. I don't really want to discuss her death, as I don't have enough details about it, and it's to sad of a subject to talk about to lightly. It's the pushy parent thing I want to discuss.

I understand every parent wants the best for their child. They want them to be successful, they want them to achieve things, to have hobbies, to be a fully rounded individual. It's good for the child too, to meet new people, have different hobbies, I have no problems with this, I actually support it. It's when these hobbies become more like chores than actual fun, that's when I have the problem. When parents try to live their own dreams and ambitions through their child, that's when I have the problem. Jon-Benet Ramseys Mother loved these beauty pageants. I dare say Jon-Benet Ramsey quite liked them, but she was six years old, did she know anything different? She travelled all over the country for these pageants, had dress fittings, practiced routines, wore make up, practiced the perfect smile. When I was six years old, I was playing with my dolls! Well actually that's a lie, toy cars, but same difference, hehe! No one likes to lose, should this child really be put through the rejection or losing? Being told she isn't good enough? It was a career for her, she was six years old, she was living her Mothers dream. She looked like she was a little lady, what people forget is, she was only a baby!

The advertised programme for pushy parents shows all these parents, claiming they are only doing what's best for their little cherub. They want them to act, model, be great sportschildren. They seem to forget they are children. They don't need pressure. They need to feel secure, and loved in everything they do. They are to young to know what they want to do in their life, is it right for these parents to make the decisions for them? They can give them options, show them what they can do, but not make the decision for them, that's just wrong. On this pushy parents programme it shows one loving Father, whos daughter just failed a dancing audition, she must be about seven. Instead of hugging her, wiping her tears, telling her she did her best and that was more than good enough for him. He shouted at her, said she would never be a success. Told her she should of practiced more. I realise you have to teach children the ways of life, prepare them for the world. That's just to much to soon though, they need to be just children first. They are growing up to fast.

My friends son Dominic is eight and he loves football with a passion. Manchester has two big football clubs, United and City. They both have a very strong youth base, they believe in finding them young. Dominic plays football for his school football team on a Saturday, and in my biased opinion he's very good. Well over a year ago, there was a scout from Manchester City watching them, and he picked Dominic to attend their soccer school. He loves it. They teach you ball skills, how to keep fit, how to play as a team. He plays matches against other teams, and in moderation it's fine. He has other hobbies, and it occupies his time. Eventually in a few years, they will decide if he's good enough to be signed to the youth team, but that's a long way off. There's a downside to this though, one so big, I doubt his Mum will let him sign, and rightly so. Once you are signed, you are only allowed to play football in the academy. No playing football in the street with your friends, or at the park. In case they get injured or learn bad habits. What the hell? They are little boys of no more than ten years old, it's not right. They should be allowed to enjoy what they love!

My parents never pushed me, they never forced me to do anything. I did Folk dancing for a while *embarrassed* but i didn't like it much. I made my own decisions, my parents supported what I decided to do, gave me encoragement, but never pushed me. I think it's good kids get out and do things, it develops them as people, but not to the point where it's the parent that's getting the most enjoyment out of it. they need space to grow as people, and at their own pace.

Comments
on Jun 18, 2004
I remember that case, that was weird. supposedly the cops had no evidence against the parents at all though, they just blamed them anyway. There was all this evidence to suggest someone had broken in. A lot of people think there was a whole conspiracy or something going on.

I liked this article, and I agree with you, i think it can be hard to get that balance between encouraging kids to have hobbies and pushing them too far. I think when parents are trying to live vocariously thru their kid is where it gets scary.

Thanks for the comment- I'm dancing around too!!lol . I guess me and Holden are on a "break" but who knows? I dont think Dave'll go thru with it to be honest. Well, I hope not. She wants him to move to Soho or something..madness.

When's Kermit back? Have you decided where you're going for ur birthday yet? I'd recommend NY but remember, I'm incredibly biased!!

Love Dyl xx
on Jun 18, 2004
There was a brilliant song on Alanis Morriset's first album called 'Perfect'. I think it outlines what you're talking about, well, perfectly. It starts with
'Sometimes, is never quite enough
When you're flawless, then you'll win my love.
Don't forget to win first place,
Don't forget to keep that smile on your face' Etc etc
My folks were quite like this. All the way through school it was always 'You're not doing well enough'. Now I'm lucky that I am exceptionally intelligent (that sounds really immodest, but I'm like some freak of nature. Not always a good thing) so in the end I always topped all my classes and got top marks in everything - my piano and flute exams, debating and school. But this wasn't ever enough.
In my last year at school, on speech night I got something stupid like 13 awards. Instead of congratulating me, my folks said that it would have been nice had I topped ALL my subjects (I came second in Religious Education as it was compulsory and I didn't care about it).
The thing with parents pushing their kds all the time is that it makes them think that they are not truely valuable as they are. It makes them think that they have to BE something - the best runner, singer, prettiest girl etc etc in order to receive love. God - the amount of times you see these people who are pushed and pushed and pushed either have a breakdown, turn to drugs, or just have an incredible backlash against the whole ethos they have been brought up with is amazing. I myself at 17 suffered from severe depression, anxiety disorder, mild anorexia and towards the end of the year had a small breakdown. It is not all my parent's fault - I should have learned better ways to deal with my situation. But the constant pressure makes you crack.
I get so sad when I see people who do this. It will only lead to their child resenting them. It will not give them a 'head start' in life. As you said, if the kid wants to do it, great. But when there are fathers yelling at their already distraught daughters because they are failures, you can just see the road the poor child is going to travel. She's going to keep trying and trying to be perfect until she realises that the point she is chasing is always just beyond the horizon. And then she's going to be really pissed off.
To finish with more Alanis 'I'll love you, just the way you are, when you're perfect'
on Jun 18, 2004
I read alot about the Jon Benet case - I was mortified and fascinated at the same time - at this time I wanted to be a lawyer or a crimologist - I was a BIG fan of cop shows I digress

the following is from a website Link

This website deals with the death of Jon Benet Ramsey (Boulder Colorado - USA).
Jon Benet Ramsey, a child of 6, was brutally murdered - through strangling and skull fracture -in the night between the 25th and 26th December 1996. Her mother Patsy reported the child missing with a 911 call to police before 6 a.m. on Dec. 26.
The dead body of Jon Benet was finally discovered in the house basement by her father John Bennet Ramsey at 1 p.m.
A long "ransom note" (3 pages) was found by Patsy on the kitchen steps always in the early morning of Dec. 26.
The absurd length of the letter, the ludicrous money request and a lot of other typically non-kidnapper remarks patently show that the so called "ransom note" was nothing else but a clumsy attempt at deflecting investigations.

Since Christmas 1996 two and a half years went by: noone has even been formally indicted yet.
Still the "ransom note" lies there, with its wealth of information for all those caring to seek the truth and for those taking sides in defence of unprotected children.

**okay this is me
Why would a kidnapper dump the body tied up in the kid's own house - the father tampered with the body and so no evidence was able to be found, they think the father wrote the note, they also think that her brother killed her and the parents are trying to cover it up - lots of conspiracy theories -- Oprah even covered the story and met with some of the police involved

Floozie - I love that Alanis song
on Jun 18, 2004
Wow thanks for youe comments guys!

Suz, now I understand why you aren't wanting to retrun to Oz in a hurry! You sound like the perfect student, your parents should be so proud of you! Mine never pushed me at anything, I was kind of nerdy at school though, but in everything I did they always told me how proud they were, and thety still do, I will forever appreciate that and hopefully be the same with my own children!

I myself at 17 suffered from severe depression, anxiety disorder, mild anorexia and towards the end of the year had a small breakdown. It is not all my parent's fault - I should have learned better ways to deal with my situation. But the constant pressure makes you crack.


This is my whole point, the long term damage, but look at the wonderful person it's turned you in to today sweety!

Trina, as usual a truely fab comment! You really pay attention to what I write! Thank you! It's just such a sad story, I watched a programme about it a few years ago, and ot really broke my heart, she was only a baby! There is definatly some kind of conspiracy, a ransom note three pages long! Please, like kidnappers would ever go into that much detail, and leave the body in her own house. It's just all very sad, I wish they could find the truth out, for the sake of that little girls memory!