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but it only makes them stronger
Published on June 3, 2004 By Sally jacobs In Personal Relationships
I've talked alot recently about the dynamics of men and women. The roles we play, what's expected of us. We live in a society where men are still the dominant sex, but women are becoming more equal. Compared to when our Grandparents were young we've come a long way, but we still have a long way to go. No matther how much we want to be equal, it will never happen. I don't say this lightly, but there are fundamental differences between men and women that will make it impossible for us to ever be equal. The biggest one is men are physically stronger. There's no way of getting away from this, and this tips the balance. This puts women in a vulnerable position. Men have a power over women, and though the majority of men would never dream of exerting this power over women, it's there, in the back of your mind.

I consider myself to be a strong minded young woman. i don't consider myself weak, I'm not weak. I am vulnerable though. When I walk down the street and it's dark, and a man's walking behind me, thoughts do cross my mind. Maybe I'm paranoid, but to that man I am an easy target. I'm sure men go through the same thing, but I can only speak from a womans perspective. If we're talking from a males perspective, I'm sure they don't feel vulnerable if a female is walking behind them on a dark night. It's all about the physical threat. Nobody likes to admit a weakness, if anything you do your best to hide it. So it can't be taken advantage of. I think females do a similar thing. I was discussing married couples with my friend and how the female tends to wear the trousers. My friend thought it started off the male in charge and slowly but surely the balance tipped until the female ruled. I'd like to think most relationships were equal, but in experience and watching others, this isn't always the case. Males do tend to roll over for women. If we generalise this, and I am generalising, women are known for nagging. We want things done a certain way, and as in general we have a nesting instinct, this is implemented mostly in the home, and it lead to differences. Men and women are different. We want different things. This leads to different behaviours, and different reactions to these behaviours, hence the gender stereotypes we can all fall into.

Now some would argue that if men are physically stronger, women are mentally stronger. In some cases this could be the case, but there's not enough evidence to support this claim. Women in general have the upper hand when it comes to emotions, mostly due to the fact we are forced to face them so much. There's much more of a taboo for men showing emotion. It's seen as wrong. Men should be seen as strong and unable to convey emotion, they should just be able to grunt well! So unlike nature making men physically stronger, society attempts to make men emotionally retarded, therefore giving women the upper hand mentally. Women use this power to the best of their ability. They have to use what they can in a society dominated by men.

So what got me on to this subject? Someone close to me was in an abusive relationship with a man. Now she's not the first and unfortunately she won't be the last woman to go through this. This man, if you can call him that, beat her up, to the point where she had to be hospitalised on more than one occasion. I thought that was bad enough, but I found the mental affect he had on her was far worse. He lead her to believe she was nothing, without him she had nothing and the worst thing is she believed it. This man blamed her for making him beat her on a regular basis. She made him do that, and this she believed to. This wasn't normal behaviour, men just didn't randomly beat up women. Tha wasn't the normal thing to do. So it had to be her fault. It had to be something she did to make him react like that. When it first started, she hid it, she was ashamed. She was weak and she was letting him do this to her. She'd allowed a man into her life, she'd allowed herself to love him and this was what had happened. It was her fault. When people eventually did start to find out, because he had done such a good job of convincing her that she was worthless, she wouldn't hear a bad word against him. That was the most frustrating thing, you saw someone you cared about in so much pain, and they weren't allowing you to help them. They were going one step further than that and protecting the monster that was causing this. She wouldn't hear how terrible he was, and this phase went on for a long time. It alienated her from friends, which served his purpose even more. She came to rely on him more and more. He'd punch her and then tell her he loved her. Can anyone be that desperate for love that it's worth a punch in the face everyday.

She soon reached the next phase, fear. The sad thing is, to this day I think she's still in this phase. She realised what was happening to her wasn't right, she realised it wasn't deserved, she realised she wouldn't live long enough to feel real love, unless she got out of this relationship. For the moment his mentality advantage had gone. She realised she had to leave. So what did he do? He used what he had, the physical advantage. She was to scared to leave him. She feared for her life, and though the law helped, it didn't help enough (it has since improved a great deal though). She left him a few times, but after threats and begging and empty promises she returned to him and the same would happen again. This infuriated me! Why couldn't she see it was all going to happen again. I wanted to do what he was doing, control her, make her do what I wanted, but I couldn't. I had to let her make her mistakes and be there for her when it all came crashing down. This happened a few times, until it reached the point where she'd had enough, and you could tell, I don't know how, but I knew just looking at her that, that was it. She'd found strength from somewhere and that was it, and he knew it to, and it scared the hell out of him!

So did it all end there? If only things were that easy. This is when it got worse. you'd think it was impossible, but the saying, things have to get a whole lot worse before they get better, so true. He started stalking her, and those close to her. Stalking at this time still really wasn't recognised by the law, they were still at the early stages of implimenting laws against it, so she got little help from them. She lived in fear. He followed her, he phoned her, he stood outside her house day and night. It was the element of not knowing that was worse. You'd stay with her and the fear you felt listening to him outside shouting and making threats, unbelieveable. The police would be called, he'd get moved on, but you'd lie in wait of his inevitable return. This girl was to scared to sleep, to scared to go out, to scared to stay in, to scared to live.

Now I haven't said much about the guy as a person, and to be honest i don't think he deserves to be even mentioned by name. I tried to understand his behaviour. Was he on a power trip and when it got taken away for him it sent him over the edge? I don't know, I don't understand any of his behaviour. I think we can safely say he wasn't stable. I feel foolish, I to thought he was a nice guy. I guess you never can tell. So what was the conclusion of this. She was scared half to death, but when his actions actually scared him, that's where it stopped. he almost killed someone close to her. They told him what they thought of him, pushed him even further, till he snapped, and he lost it, by huge proportions, put this person in hospital for two weeks, and with that he disappeared, never to be seen again. He never went to prison for what he did, but I'd like to think there's a worse fate waiting for him. My friend recovered, slowly but surely, but she'll never be the same. This guy dominated her mentally and physically for a long time. I guess there's an exception to every rule. This does not mean we should live in fear. Because then we aren't living. Anyone can have power, it's how we use it that counts. And as fast as we gain it, we can lose it, never forget that.

If you made it to the end of this, thank you for reading, and sorry about the length!

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on Jun 03, 2004
Abusive relationships are a sad but all too common thing. Sometimes it's reversed and it's the woman who is abusive. Either way, it just shouldn't be.

I see men and women as compliments to each other. The areas where a man isn't as strong, verbal, emotional, etc... the woman makes up for and visa versa. The two of them together cover all the bases. Of course this is also why men and women will never truly understand each other. Our minds do work differently and for this reason some things that make perfect sense to a woman will never make sense to a man and some of the 'normal' things a man says, does, thinks, will always baffle women.

Anyone who abuses their mate is usally insecure and seeking to find some sort of power they feel they are lacking. Is there an easy answer? No.

Are women weak? Definately not. Women's strengths are simply in areas other than the physical. But then, I know some men who couldn't lift a 50 lbs barbell without getting a hernia. All things considered, I would say that men and women are pretty equal, just in differing areas.
on Jun 03, 2004
Just happened to cross this, I'm at wyldfey.com.

I agree with alot you said, but you called your friend weak, the admitted to the fear you had when you heard him yelling threats outside.

I just had a hit me on one occasion when I was trying to break up with me, and he beat the hell out of me. THAT was tramautic and I don't know why anyone could or would subject themselves to that repeatedly. But she was prob abused at home first, which lead her to think this was normal. I commend anyone who talks about this and gets the word out there.

But it's the men who do this that are wrong. They scare and harrass women and dominate.

I don't think it's fair to call the woman weak. In this society. It took all the strength I had to push for him to be prosecuted and I'm still dealing with the b.s.

It's not easy, or fun. And after everything she went through, albiet if she stayed on her own too long, I know it can't be easy. Be proud of her for finally having the courage to leave at all before she was killed.

Sorry, no offense, this is a sensitive subject with me now. I had to share my thoughts.
on Jun 03, 2004
Thank you for both them comments, but I just have to stress, that I do not think women are weak at all. I don't think she was weak, she was alot stronger than I ever could be. Maybe i didn't convey it very well in my article, but I was talking about how she saw herself, she saw herself as weak, and that's why she let it go on! Ooooh I feel bad now, because I really didn't mean that! Men and women compliment each other, because they are different and that's why we usually work so well together!
on Jun 03, 2004
Women are weak


You didn't need to actually write the article dear girl, the title said it all. Jolly good show.
on Jun 03, 2004
But I would also like to say that a lot of "domestic abuse" is actually no more than a chap disciplining his wife if she has misbehaved, there is nothing wrong in that.

Although some chaps do go too far I must admit.
on Jun 03, 2004
Ooooh I feel bad now, because I really didn't mean that!


Don't feel bad. I understood your point very well, you expressed it perfectly.

But I would also like to say that a lot of "domestic abuse" is actually no more than a chap disciplining his wife if she has misbehaved, there is nothing wrong in that.


*sigh*
on Jun 03, 2004
Like you stated in the above comment, you're friend is not weak, and what is happening is not her fault. As a Domestic Violence (DV) victims advocate I repeatedly heard the line, "why doesn't she just leave?" The question we should be asking is, "why doesn't he stop abusing her?" The "why doesn't she just leave" question is only revictimizing the abused. The reason women don't leave are numerous, but most significantly, when a woman leaves an abusive relationship the likelihood that she will be murdered by her abuser skyrockets. Leaving is not always the safest option, and as you've pointed out, it often comes with undesirable results (ie. stalking).
on Jun 03, 2004
I just had a hit me on one occasion when I was trying to break up with me, and he beat the hell out of me. THAT was tramautic and I don't know why anyone could or would subject themselves to that repeatedly. But she was prob abused at home first, which lead her to think this was normal. I commend anyone who talks about this and gets the word out there.


This is from a blog that I wrote on DV a couple months ago:
When most people think of domestic violence they think of women with obvious physical bruises or scars. But it doesn't always start that way--it often first appears as psychological battering. The abuser becomes controlling, watching his partner's every move, questioning what she is doing and with whom she is doing it, telling her she's ugly or stupid, that she doesn't deserved to be loved. But it happens gradually, it sneaks in. And after the bursts of violence, the abuser usually feigns remorse--claims to have an anger problem, or says that it only happens when he's been drinking. There are a whole slew of excuses that abusers throw about, but they amount to nothing. Domestic violence is predicated on a pattern of behavior that is used to establish power and control over another person through the use of fear and intimidation. Psychological abuse is often a precursor to physical abuse, if the relationship is allowed to get to that stage. Kicking, biting, pinching and slapping often escalate into life threatening behavior such as choking, breaking bones and the use of weapons.


It is not because women have been abused in the past, or because they think that this is normal behavior. It is because it is gradual (an all out blow out like what happened in your case is rarely the first incident). The slow escalation led to a "how did it get to this point" moment, but this moment usually only occurs after the abused has been seemingly stripped of all power.




on Jun 03, 2004
Thank you Mason for the encouragement, this really isn't a topic where I want people to think that I'm judging them, or calling them weak, because it really isn't!

Shades, thank you for both your wonderful comments, It looks like your article said things better than I ever could. You're right we should want the abuser to stop abusing, but they don't have any control of their behaviour, they can only make choices for themselves, it really is a no win situation. It's scary how it does esculate, and sadly it's all about power, and any person can find themselves in this situation, weak or strong! It's alot more about the mental abuse than people think, thank you again.
on Jun 04, 2004
It's really strange. After I read this I picked up The Times and there was an article about exactly the same thing. It is so sad that these happenings are so prevalent. I don't really know if I have a worthwhile comment to post here. I once had a stalker and was lucky enough to have the police put a stop to it before his amorous attention turned sour. The fear I felt in response to him was so overpowering that I began to question my role in the situation. People don't normally act like that, so what had I done to cause it? I think the same goes when people are abused. We all try to make sense of the world as much as possible. When situations which are beyond logic and reason occur i think it's human nature for us to question ourselves. Which is why abuse is so insidious. The scars may heal physically, but the emotional and mental scars left behind are likely to fester. Having good friends like you should hopefully help your friend recover faster.
It is so sad that we live in a world where most people act from fear rather than love. And so sad that people keep suffering as a result.
on Jun 04, 2004
Thanks for the comment Hunny! It's a tough subject to talk about, but I agree with what you've said, we try and explain everything, and when we can't, we blame ourselves. I like to think there's reason behind everything, and when you can't see logic anywhere, that's scary! It's amazing what goes on behind closed doors, you just never know. She will be ok, but the mental scars will be always there in some form I think!
on Jun 04, 2004
Of course I made it to the end honey. This is a tough subject to write about, but it's important that it's brought to light. My friend Lisa was in a similar situation with a boyfriend who beat her up and abused her sexually too. She left him, and she's staying with her parents now. I've seen the guy around a few times, and I can't tell you how much I hate him. I don't know why he did it or if he's still doing it now to some other poor girl, but Lisa won't go to the cops so he's still out there. I don't know about him acting out of fear or if he's disturbed or whatever but i don't think there's any excuse for what he's done to her. She was the bubbly, wonderful happy person and now she's fucked up crazy. As far as I know guys like him are the scum of the earth.

On a lighter note? How are ya? How's Kermit? I''m going shopping today so I promise I'll leave you a very detailed description of anything shoe or bag like that I might buy in my next article. I have really screwed things up with my mom by the way, but it's her husbands fault! Why do I wanna annoy Holden? I dunno..it's just what we do. Don't you have friends you like to tease?

Let me know how ur doing + congrats on an excellent article! Love Dyl xxx
on Jun 04, 2004
Oh I just got ur comment on my last blog. Yeah, Hugh is a slimeball. I guess Holden is stuck with him, but he's tough, he'll hold his own. Maybe Hugh could teach him the finer points of pro football or something lol. My mom and him have been married for about 6 years i think. The baby's not due till like March next year or something. I'll go see my dad if I can money for plane tickets I suppose, but I'll need a job first...

I'll try and write something amusing about my mom tomorrow, maybe this shopping trip'll turn something up. gotta go!! love ya, dyl

on Jun 04, 2004
More people need to take an active stand when they know about these things. (And there is almost always somebody who knows it's going on)

A couple of years ago I was with a few of my friends at our favorite watering hole. A couple came in and sat at the bar across from us. The bar is horseshoe shaped. Well within a few minutes they began argueing about something or other and he slapped her hard enough to knock her off her stool.

Well, sorry but we just don't put up with that sort of crap here. My friends and I drug the guy outside and commenced to beat the crap outta the guy. Ok, I'll admit it wasn't the most civilized means of dealing with it.

A sheriffs deputy happened to drive past while we were using this guy as a dance floor and naturally sped in to break it up. After we explained what happened, and the bartender confirmed it, the guy was arrested, taken to the hospital, and then jailed for domestic violence after he was released from the hospital 4 days later.

The woman was taken to a battered women's shelter and was assisted in getting divorced from this cretin and is living and working here in our community and doing quite well. Oh, I forgot to mention, they didn't live here. They were passing through from New York to Florida on vacation.

As far as I know the guy is still in prison.

Now, I don't recommend this tactic be taken in every case because in some communities you could wind up in jail yourself. But here in the south, it works pretty well.
on Jun 04, 2004
Mason: Wow. I'm glad you did something, and it certainly seems like you helped to turn this woman's life around. There's a couple advertisements about DV that speak clearly to your point. In the first you can hear a woman getting beat in the background. The voiceover says "if your neighbors house were on fire, you'd call for help, why aren't you calling now?"

The second is a hockey game and one of the player starts a fight with another. The voice over says something to the effect of: "In hockey when someone "plays rough" everyone yells, so why in real life when men play rough is everyone silent?"

Silence is the main barrier to over coming DV.

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