"Conversation should be pleasant without scurrility, witty without affectation, free without indecency, learned without conceitedness, novel without falsehood."

I'm writing this article on behalf of my sister, as it is a topic that is really annoying her at the moment. I think I have touched upon it many times before, but it is still something that annoys me, so here goes.

My sisters fella likes women. He enjoys the female body. He likes looking at them, he thinks the female form is there to be appreciated by men the world over. In his opinion the female body, in all different kinds of shapes and sizes is beautiful, and is there to be looked at. So he has no problem in looking....and looking....and looking, obviously just showing his appreciation for the female form. My sister has a problem with this. She doesn't think he should be looking at women. In her opinion, on the odd occasion, if a woman turns his head, that isn't a problem, but when it is every single woman he comes into contact with, it is a problem. It is something she confronted him on, and he doesn't think it is an issue. In his opinion he is simply enjoying the female, as every male should. So is this wrong?

When my sister first mentioned this to me, I was quite amused, and just laughed it off as typical male behaviour. It's what men do, right? There is afterall no harm in looking. Ever since she has brought it up though, I have taken a little extra notice to this behaviour, and he does do it alot....I mean ALOT. Considering he is my sisters fella, I can see how this would annoy her. What gets me is his reasoning for it. For some reason that winds me up more than anything. You need to 'appreciate' the female form, by staring at her with your eyes popping out of your head, your mouth open, and drool dribbling down your chin, do you? Oh how we love to be appreciated like that! I just find it all a little patronizing.

Having said that, women do it too. I am not innocent of 'appreciating' the male form. I watch football and appreciate all them tight little bums running around the field. There are there to be looked at though.....hehe. I have to say women don't seem to be as obvious about it as men, we don't seem to stare at every man walking down the street, and make them feel like a piece of meat. Maybe it is because men and women appreciate each other in different ways. Maybe we look for different things, and we are attracted to different things, and therefore we behave in different ways.

Lets take a moment to think about the female form that is getting appreciated. When you see a pretty girl walking down the street, and she turns your head, do you think that's the first time it's happened that day? Second, maybe? Third? Lost count.....maybe. Speaking as a woman who has experienced this behaviour....I don't like it. Now I know women who love it, thrive on it in fact. If they don't get stared at whilst walking down the street, they think something is wrong. I just don't like it though, I hate feeling like a piece of meat. I hate it when men stare at my boobs. I do have a face, ya know! You can walk down the street, and you can see mens heads turning, like they've never seen a female before. I just don't like it at all. It isn't like they are looking at me and thinking, she looks like she has a good personality, or she looks trustworthy. You know what I mean? It's "look at the tits on that", kind of thing. I just don't like it.

I don't think that we can change this behaviour. There is always going to be people that look, and those that don't. I don't think there is anything wrong with appreciating women, and how they look, just remember there is much more to us than that. We bite


Comments
on Jul 13, 2006
There is looking and then there is Ogling.  Your Sister's fella is ogling.  I dont think there is any hetero man that does not look.  But looking discreetly is very different from ogling.  And most women do not merit a head turn (the buxom blonde walking nude down the street is an exception).  As it is considered rude especially if you are with your significant other.
on Jul 13, 2006
You can walk down the street, and you can see mens heads turning, like they've never seen a female before. I just don't like it at all.


It doesn't bother me a bit. Sometimes I even smile and wave.

When a man turns his head to look at a pretty woman, I think of it as a compliment. He is saying, "You are cute enough, pretty enough (whatever) that I want to look at you some more."

Just like if I see something pretty or heh, unusual, I usually want to look at it.

Sally I guarantee there will come a time in your life when you lament not being able to turn a man's head (or not turning as many). Enjoy it while it lasts.

As for my man doing it when he is with me....well if its a quick look, fine. But if I actually notice it (and I don't look for it) then it borders on disrespect imho. I wouldn't stare at another man to the point that my husband actually noticed because it would be offensive to him. And I love him and don't want to hurt him.

But I am no fool. HE is gone a lot so I am sure he gets his eyes full of candy while away from the roost!
on Jul 13, 2006

Looking is normal, oggling is the step before a guy cheats. Looking at other woman when you are WITH your woman is ok if done in moderation and on the DL, outright oogling means he is not attracted to your sister. Oggling at a woman on every chance the guy has, shows exactly what that guy is thinking of; sex with another woman. His cover story that he likes the female body and likes to look at the body's form like art is bullshit.

My money says the guy is just waiting for the chance to Act on one of his OGles.
on Jul 13, 2006
I agree that he's ogling. And when he's with her he should show some respect because he knows she doesnt' like it. It's healthy and OK for a male to look and admire a woman but to do it the way he is, no way!
on Jul 13, 2006
hmm, people watching is one thing, but concentrating only on the members of the opposite sex is another! However, there was a girl at work today, and even I was checking her out. Must have been the outfit that she had on. Only natural... hehe.
on Jul 13, 2006
My wife actually points the good ones, just in case I miss 'em. But there is a big difference between looking and ogling or leering.

His cover story that he likes the female body and likes to look at the body's form like art is bullshit.


If he is doing it and denying it, then I would agree. But to me it is obvious from Sally's article her sister's boyfriend is not denying or hiding what he is doing.

remember there is much more to us than that. We bite


Don't you ever...
on Jul 14, 2006
So your sister's "fella"...they're not married I take it? He sounds immature to be making such a scene over every attractive female figure who crosses his path. If he can't curtail his ogling of other women while he's with his own gal, even out of respect for her, then he's got a long way to go on the path to maturity. Don't know what else is going on in their relationship...

My husband really appreciates the female form too. One time while he was driving with me in the passenger seat, we'd just passed by a group of females walking along his side. It wasn't enough for him to casually notice them while they were in his normal field of view. No, while he was driving by he turned his head past the normal point just to soak them in for a moment longer.

Being accustomed to this sort of behavior from him I said nothing, but seized the next opportunity when I saw a nice-looking man walking on my side...I looked, then looked again harder, then turned fully around in my seat and gripped the car to brace myself as I mock-ogled the guy. My husband laughed, so my point was made.

As for being the ogle-ee, from a woman's perspective, I agree that:
there will come a time in your life when you lament not being able to turn a man's head (or not turning as many). Enjoy it while it lasts.


Although it may seem boorish of men to gawk, consider it a compliment Beauty for women is a fleeting thing, and you're in the prime of your life right now. But if the gawkers are rude or showing signs of harrassment, that may be cause to be upset. Perhaps report them or put them in their place or whatever.
on Jul 14, 2006
I can't deny that being a one-woman man, devoted to my wife and very respectful to her even when she's not present, I won't deny that there are women that catch my attention that I may look with more than just a glance. I however never follow thru. It's like a reaction I guess, kinda like how you would react if you saw a big movie star, you just can't avoid it. But I respect her enough to not look at women while she's with me, or at the least not make it so plainly obvious.

I'm sorry to say this but there is really no excuse to look at other women the same way a starving person would look at a deliciously looking oven roasted turkey while with your woman and actually have a legit reason for doing it that can clear you of any wrong doing. I picked my wife cause I love her and I loved they way she looked and if I feel the need to endulge myself in the beaty of other women to the point of choking while I'm with my wife then I don't know what the hell I'm doing with her.

Sorry fellas but I have to agree with the girls on this one. It's not like you spend 24-7 with your woman that you can't find time to endulge yourself in the beaty that is the female body when she's not around. Cause there is no denying that a womans body is the only thing that can pry my eyes off a beatiful car like a '69 camaro or a Lamborgini Diablo.

Sally I guarantee there will come a time in your life when you lament not being able to turn a man's head (or not turning as many). Enjoy it while it lasts.


I agree 100%. You should not feel like a piece of meat cause it's more a compliment than anything else unless they get personal and rude. I can asure you that if these looks you dispise so much start lacking, the sense of being ignored will want that sense of feeling like a piece of meat to return.

Tell her he either needs to get his act straight or she needs to learn to live with it. In my experience most women I know chose to try to learn to deal with it, eventually they get tired of trying to learn and then try to get him to get his act straight but will only end up trying to learn again and in many cases this vicious cycle tends to repeat itself several times tile one kills the other or one commints suicide. JMO.
on Jul 14, 2006
I appreciate Beer.. yet I do not Ogle...
I appreciate good food.. yet I do not Ogle...
I appreciate my friends.. yet I do not Ogle...
I appreciate the shitton of steel under my feet keeping me dry.. yet I do not Ogle...


Appreciating something does not mean you Ogle it... I admit openly that I do appreciate the female form myself. I will not even lie and say I have never Ogle'd a woman before... I have... I have a feeling like a previous poster said before that he's just one step shy of cheating.. though I can't really be positive... he may just be a hormone packed male who must check out every female in the room to see if he can find one hotter than the woman he's with to grind up on... or maybe I'm just being an ass towards him..
on Jul 15, 2006
Your sister needs to grow up. If she (and you) haven't realized that there is not now, nor has there ever been, a male human being who does not immediately think of sex when he looks at a woman (any woman) then you both need a sabbatical from the convent.

As to feeling like meat... you are meat. So is your sister. So am I, and so is everyone else. As to respect.. you get it (if you get it) when you are known to someone at a level rather deeper than a passing glance or a long lingering look.

Yesterday I met an exceptionally attractive young woman. I certainly looked at her in a way that made explicit the fact that I found her attractive. Being an adult she took my attraction to her at its proper value - the adult response of a sexually mature male to an adult, sexually mature female. Being an adult, rather than a frightened insecure brat, she was both flattered and affirmed and we spent a pleasant moment or two in conversation which lightened the day for both of us.

Only adolescents believe that being in a 'relationship' means some kind of mental monogamy.
on Jul 15, 2006
the city of detroit used to prohibit--by municipal statute--'oogling & ogling'. only guys i ever knew who were prosecuted for that particular offense were black.

coincidence...or what?
on Jul 15, 2006
Insecurities, right and wrong, whatever aside, he needs to learn discretion.
on Jul 19, 2006
Hey Sal! Where have you disappeared to? I'm missing you!

Hope all is well, hon. Have a great day!
on Jul 21, 2006

Thanks for all the comments all....I'm sorry I didn't get the chance to reply until now, though all your comments are much appreciated! 

Charlie, don't think you are getting rid of me that easy babe!