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Published on September 11, 2004 By Sally jacobs In Politics
I try not to get involved in politics, nevermind politics of a completely different country. It would appear American politics matters everywhere. Not just to the Americans. Hardly surprising is it really, considering the size, and wealth of America. The politics of America will end up having a knock on effect everywhere else. That's just the way things work. When British people demonstrated Bush's state visit last year. Our Prime minister in his infinite wisdom, presumed we were anti-America. They were not protesting against America, but against a President they do not trust. He isn't our President, but as I mentioned, that power seems to have a knock on effect. America is our biggest Ally; we have profound bonds of history and culture. Not to mention a shared sacrifice in two world wars. We believe as America does that the worlds sole superpower is a democracy and not - as it might have been had the Soviet Union "won" the Cold War - a tyranny.

At this time of the visit there were alot of Polls done, just to see where the british public stood on President Bush. Lets explain the surveys which simultaneously show great affection for the US, even as they record intense suspicion towards Bush? Pick up one poll and it finds that half the public reckons Blair's closeness to Bush is bad for Britain. Pick up another and it reveals the US is still the place where most Britons want to go on holiday, and even where one in five of us would like to live.

We are in awe of America, no doubt. We follow their films, and books. We follow their fashion, what they have to say to the world. We know they are a super power, and we try to be like them. We also see their Politics. The words Bush says, you are either with us, or against us. We see him manipulate the american Public. His inflated claims of weapons of Mass destruction. Where does it all stop.

We all know Americans are very proud of their country. They are also unsure of Bush though. Just look at all the people that voted against him in 2000. They are not anti-America. Far from it. They love their country. With an intense love, that has simply grown since the tragic events of 9/11. They would die for their country, that doesn't mean they have to have faith in their President.

Tony Blair seems to be of the opinion, to accept america, we have to accept Bush. Not the case. We can accept America, and still not agree with their leader. We can respect everything America stands for, but see they were lead to places they may not have wished to go. We can stand by a nation, but not agree with the direction they always go. I personally am not anti-Bush. I am not with him either. I just want the less of two evils. Here I am explaining the British view, Bush is not popular here. America already knows that though.

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on Sep 13, 2004
Hehe, Gid, sorry I ate it all!


And this perfectly underscores the genesis of the international conflict. Allow me to elaborate.

Your "offering popcorn" is perfectly analogous to countries offering other countries the hope of international cooperation and even handedness. My accepting is analogous to taking other countries up on the offer. Your retracting of the offer is a metaphor for the de facto insincerity of countries; further, your "eating it all" can be likened to the other countries taking advantage of the cooperation themselves while being exclusive of others.

Either that, or I've overanalyzed this, and yer just a greedy pig!
on Sep 13, 2004
Ouch, it hurts my brain when people overanalyze things! That last post was equal to a migraine.

However, I don't know if people overseas genuinely appreciate America and its people all the time. I've been called a 'stupid American' or 'American pig' too many times to count. It's strange because I do nothing to provoke this; it seems that some Europeans just like calling Americans dumb because they feel like it. The British are nice to me, though .
on Sep 13, 2004
As the hegemonic nation, the United States realizes a role in international affairs, just like England


Exactly, that's why whoever gets elected will have a knock on effect. Bush or not.

And this perfectly underscores the genesis of the international conflict. Allow me to elaborate.


Very clever Gid, and I see your point, I was just being a greedy pig though!

I've been called a 'stupid American' or 'American pig' too many times to count.


America is the world superpower. Caling you a stupid American is just some people trying to regain some respect for themselves. Every country has stereotypes, most are negative.

The British are nice to me, though


I think Americans are great and I'm a lovely English girl!
on Sep 13, 2004
Thanks, and we think you're great too.
on Sep 13, 2004
Thanks, and we think you're great too.


Ahh isn't it nice to be nice
on Sep 13, 2004
Indeed it is. I like being happy.
on Sep 13, 2004
The Fazz, how come you don't have any articles?
on Sep 13, 2004
I don't know, I just got a Stardock account, but I've been reading these forums for a while without ever posting anything.
on Sep 13, 2004
Oooh you should write an article! I love to learn about the people that read my crap!
on Sep 13, 2004
Excellent post sally!
on Sep 14, 2004
Thankyou
on Sep 14, 2004
Hi i just wanted to say we Americans (that are non-muslim)does not hate all brits(just the muslim brits) /most of us hate the french though cause of thier high and mighty attitudes they dished out when America asked for thier aid in the Iraqi war: and now the french wants usa to help them ( my say is : french are just ass kissers to the world and i say cheer they truely got what they deserved from thier own doings:D
on Sep 14, 2004
I hate not the French but the corrupt Chirac government. But, according to a poll (please don't make me find the website) the French were SHOCKED, Amazed that the terrorists kidnapped the two Frenchmen. They feel that if they oppose the US and make it harder for the US to act, then they will be given a free pass from terrorists. That is where they are wrong. Terrorists care only to further their 'cause', not whether a country is vocally against the Iraq war.
on Sep 14, 2004
most of us hate the french though cause of thier high and mighty attitudes they dished out when America asked for thier aid in the Iraqi war


Hate gets you no where, when will people learn that.

(please don't make me find the website)


Go find it, I want stats! *evil laugh*

They feel that if they oppose the US and make it harder for the US to act, then they will be given a free pass from terrorists.


Terrorists want attention, and they will get it anyway they can, regardless.
on Sep 14, 2004
Go find it, I want stats! *evil laugh*[Go find it, I want stats! *evil laugh*


Grrr. lol

With terrorists, if they don't get their way, heads start rolling.
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