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Published on September 4, 2006 By Sally jacobs In Misc

I watched a television show last night about a fat man. I would tell you the name of the show, but it was slightly rude, so probably best I don't. This programme was about life through is eyes, and through the lives of other overweight people that were involved with this programme. If I am honest I found it all quite shocking, about, how mentally they are so completely caught up with their weight, and it effects almost every aspect of life. People are getting fatter, generally, and still it would appear we live in a world that isn't prepared to deal with these people who are overweight. I have seen many shows recently all over television regarding this problem, and to be honest until now these programmes haven't really shocked me. They are usually more about pointing ridicule, and laughing at people with these issues. The bloke in this programme was a big guy, but it showed him going to the gym, and boxing, and this guy had some real stamina, it was plain for all to see.

The programme showed a day in his life, and how he thought he was lost in a fat world. It showed how when it was really hot he had to take an extra shirt out with him, because the one he had on probably wouldn't last until dinnertime. How he couldn't go on holiday because not everywhere was fat friendly, and he wanted to avoid any embarrassing situations. How he struggled to fit into seats on public transport, and how people avoided sitting next to him, because they have all these ideas about fat people, that simply aren't true. How he could only eat in certain restaurants, because the seats were to small. The list goes on at how many things that he has to face, and we don't even realise. I actually felt pretty bad for the guy.

Then it showed a lady, who was getting on for the 30 stone mark. She liked to race cars and ran her own business. Her only problem was she found it almsot impossible to find a car that was big enough to hold her, with her feeling comfortable enough driving it. They actually went to try out some cars, and she could fit into less than half. In the end they had to get one specially made, and the shocking thing is there wasn't actually that many differences to be made. Just a few minor adjustments here and there, and she was good to go, and the difference to her was amazing. She could do what she enjoyed, and it didn't make her feel uncomfortable, or like it was impossible for her to do. That was important.

It then showed two young girls who wanted to go shopping. They were took to you average shopping centre, but they could only find clothes to fit them in half the shops they went in, and even then alot of the clothes were frumpy and aimed at people alot older than them. Shops that claimed to sell clothes for larger ladies didn't actually seem to have that many in stock and the girls were left upset and disappointed. Shopping should be something that young girls enjoy and thrive on, and they shouldn't be made to feel like they are worthless, and not worthy of the fashion they see on the highstreets. In the end they picked out clothes from the shops they liked, and got them made bigger. Now in theory this was a nice idea, but I did think that the clothes just didn't look right on them. The clothes weren't made to show off the curves of bigger women. They looked like big birds trying to be slim.

The last person they followed was a lady who loved fairground rides, and theme parks. She absolutely loved them, but she found it impossible to actually go on any. I have to say this is the person I felt for the most. She struggled getting through the doors of the theme park, nevermind the rides. She asked when she was paying if there would be rides that would be suitable for her size, and she was told there would be. She spent hours waiting to go on rides, and when she finally got there she couldn't fit in the seat and was told to leave again. It wasn't just that she couldn't get on the rides, it was the humilaytion of it all too. People were pointing and staring at her, and laughing, and she just had to get off the ride because she was to big. Pretty unfair if you ask me.

Now some people could argue that being overweight is down to the individual, and they have to deal with the consequences of that. Maybe in some cases it is. I don't think that is the point anymore. Here in England we seem to be of the thinking that if we ignore it, it will go away, and that if we don't make things easy and accessable for fat people, they will have to get thin. That isn't the case. People are getting bigger, and they are going to continue to do so. We, however, can't continue to make life uncomfortable for them in order to make it go away. We have to make places fat friendly, otherwise a large proportion of sociey will be left feeling rejected and low because of their appearance, and I don't think that is an answer to the problem.


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on Sep 04, 2006
fat people dont suffer from a disease, they suffer from bad habits and a lack of self control around junk food. I am so sick of fat people complaining about the small world around them. It would be like me a lefthander complaining about the design of righthanded equipment, and saying that's why lefthanded individuals die a few years earlier than righthanders. So I have a solution for all you fat people, get your butt off the couch and joeuser and go for a walk. Now thats a new idea. Fat people are a cancer to our society, they eat all the skinny people's food. They cant even serve in the military. Although we should use some of these shamoo's as human shields for the true American's.
on Sep 04, 2006
I work in a bakery so I see the stereotypical side of this problem.

One common problem is when I serve quiche to someone. It is one of the very few things we microwave. When it is ordered it takes 3 minutes. It always goes in right away. I can't tell you how many times someone, usually over weight, is asking where there quiche is. 3 minutes, are you serious that you can't wait 3 minutes. This is very common.

Secondly, I see many parents, who are demanding, seriously, demanding that their child have a cookie or other treat. Most of these parents are over weight. I try not to have bad attitudes, but when you have an obese person ordering from you while their mouths are full with free samples, it is gross.

I know mentally that not all are like this, but like I said working in a bakery it is common to see the bad side of the problem.

The good side I see is when I go to the gym. Luckily it is a gym where everyone of all sizes can work out. There is a mixed bag there and everyone is just trying to feel good.

That is just my observation.

OH and just a few months ago I almost lost my best friend in the whole world to congestive heart failure. She is obese and her mother died of obese related disease. She is o.k. now and is fighting hard to lose the weight. She was in intensive care for a while and it was very scary for her, and her friends and family.
It will kill you.
on Sep 04, 2006
I believe in a couple of little things called self control and personal responsibility and live my life accordingly.


Bingo... Give the man a cigar... No wait a minute, give him a cookie... Hell, what the heck am I gonna give him without seeming like I'm trying to encourage bad habits? Ahhhhh... Aww to heck with it. Here, Mason, have a cookie AND a cigar.
on Sep 04, 2006
Well, I'm beginning to think all you people around here are emaciated and fear anyone that has a few extra pounds on them.   

~Zoo
on Sep 05, 2006

OH and just a few months ago I almost lost my best friend in the whole world to congestive heart failure. She is obese and her mother died of obese related disease. She is o.k. now and is fighting hard to lose the weight. She was in intensive care for a while and it was very scary for her, and her friends and family.
It will kill you.

Kelly,  just to let you know,  Congestive heart failure is caused by a leaking mitral valve in the heart.  That creates fluid buildup and the heart becomes enlarged,  sometimes as much as two times it's normal size.  That isn't caused by obesity.  My mom had it from the time she was young,  probably born? with the condition and by the time she was in her 40's it was all she could do to walk because of her heart being so enlarged, and so much fluid.  She died at age 52 from pulmonary edema,  basically she died of drowning in her own fluids....

I'd love it a doctor stepped in here and let me know if I"m wrong on this,  I know obesity leads to heart disease however it's been my understanding that obesity doesn't cause CHF,  congestive heart failure,  although it sure would make it more miserable.

I hope your friend does ok Kelly,  I really do!  today there's surgery for mitral valves,  and also I bet she's on some kind of diuretic to get fluid out of her lungs and from around her heart.

on Sep 05, 2006

Reply By: Zoologist03Posted: Monday, September 04, 2006
Well, I'm beginning to think all you people around here are emaciated and fear anyone that has a few extra pounds on them.

~Zoo

Well I'm for sure not emaciated!  and  I sure ain't afraid of anyone!  AND I'll probably treat myself to a pint of Edy's tomorrow after this delightful encounter with those that are emaciated and fearful.  You COULD say I'm "FED UP" though,  that would fit the bill.

Doncha just love those chickens that are afraid to use their real names???  !   THEY'RE the ones that have the real problems! and it's called hate.

on Sep 05, 2006
I'd love it a doctor stepped in here and let me know if I"m wrong on this


That was just one of the things wrong. Diabetes, and some other things that were contributed to by the excessive weight. Maybe BlueDev can say it better. He was a big help to me when she was in the hospital. She is doing good now.
on Sep 05, 2006
I like what you had to say, you said it very well and didn't stomp on toes while doing it! Great going serenity!


Thank you Trudy!



Well, I'm beginning to think all you people around here are emaciated and fear anyone that has a few extra pounds on them.


oh boy, that would be sad. I guess that would be sad for me too having a few extras right now!! And knowingly doing something about it!



Kelly, I'm glad you're friend is alright now.


One thing to note, It's really hard and because it takes so long to lose all that has been piled on some people just plumb give up before they even really begin. Motivation is a factor here and some people cannot afford to pay someone to motivate and encourage them all the time. That's why most times it takes a health scare to wake some people up.
on Sep 06, 2006
Reply #19
Well, I'm beginning to think all you people around here are emaciated and fear anyone that has a few extra pounds on them.

~Zoo


Not me on either count. I am far from emaciated, I could stand to lose a few pounds, and I haven't yet met a person I was afraid of.

I know I have some extra pounds and I know it's my own damn fault, and I have a large build due to genetics. I don't expect businesses, airlines, vehicles makers, or anyone else to go out of their way or spend extra money because I caused myself to be larger than the "average" person, or I happen to have the genes that cause me to have a large frame. I just deal with it. The world doesn't owe me a thing and I can accept that.
on Sep 06, 2006
The world doesn't owe me a thing and I can accept that.


I agree with you 100% there Mason and I feel the same way. It irks the perjeebers out of me when people pull that "the world owes them this" attitude.

I also think that the issue of people being obese isn't going to go away and would rather see people that have that issue being able to get out and have facilities available to them, charge them extra if they need to use a special seating arrangement, yet make it possible for them to participate.

on Sep 06, 2006
perjeebers


Watch your language!
on Sep 06, 2006
A lot of fat people I know,bring it on themselves by eating junk,plain fat, and huge,massive portions of food,.the moment it goes out of hand,they dont stop at it in fact join a gym,and then eat even more.
I say that they bring it on themselves because they have the option to help fight and they ignore it,then they start cribbing about it and expect sympathy.

I'll sympathise for someone maybe who's fat due to high cholestrol or thyroid problems ao some health issue which makes them gain weight,but if its all done on purpose,I can only say I TOLD YOU SO.
Obesity is something everyone is aware about and all are equipped to deal with it.
on Sep 06, 2006
I just deal with it. The world doesn't owe me a thing and I can accept that.


Ah, something I can agree with.

~Zoo
on Sep 07, 2006
Sounds like an argument of a fat person.
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